That would be too easy, wouldn't it? Getting a free pass in to heaven because of the whole Light-with-a-capital-L thing. No, I'm pretty sure I've been declared officially sinful (tm) by every major religion there is back in my world. Except maybe the Buddhists. They were always pretty okay.
It's not a problem, though. And like I say, I've seen religion do more harm than good. I don't exactly feel like I'm missing out. It sounds like you feel the same, maybe.
Sorry, strange late night conversation topic. I don't normally talk theology at 3am, I promise.
[All too frequently, really. He enjoys wrestling with Ronan on the subjects of forgiveness, redemption and sin (original or otherwise) almost as much as he enjoys... well. Wrestling with Ronan.]
Who gets to decide the model and measure your deviation from it? Perhaps there is no one standard, no universal ideal. Perhaps we are all perfectly suited for the roles we were meant to play.
[ okay that was a pretty read but apollo gets the distinct feeling he's missing a grander point. With a sideways glance at the man beside him, he types: ]
Connection is exactly why I find it so hard to believe in fate, actually.
Soulmates plural as in one for every one. Or soulmates as in beings that happen to align perfectly together.
[Kylo has... a lot of thoughts, really, on the concept of soulmates. Most of them are unfinished.]
Do you think that our being interconnected disproves fate? Or is it simply the idea of an individual being fated to do or be something that you reject.
One soulmate for every person. Someone you're fated to be with, like you're carved out of the same marble. The universe aligns to bring you together, step by step, and you're whole again.
I used to believe in it. Now I'm not so sure. And I guess it made me re-evaluate the whole fate thing as a result. Nowadays I'm pretty damn sure we make our own fates. What we do determines our future, not the other way around.
I don't know. Me. Everyone. Or maybe just anyone who doesn't believe in predetermined futures. I'm not starting a revolution against the concept of fate, I've just lost faith in it.
Look, you're the one who's good with words, not me.
You're working from an isolated, singular, individual perspective. You, and I. Every single person, as their own limited and contained entity, determining their own path. Each individual with autonomous control over their choices, using them to shape their own future.
[Kylo's lips tug into a small, unseen and almost fond smile. Perhaps some things do have to be seen to be believed.]
A pleasant fantasy, yes. As for "soulmates". No. I don't believe in them as you describe. But I don't believe in the kind of fate you have lost faith in, either.
What other reason to ask a question is there? But no. I don't mind.
Do I consider myself sinful.
It isn't the word I would have used. I'm not certain there is a word, where I am from, for what I believed I was. For what I was taught beings like me are. Sinful may be close. I'd known since I was a child that I was something that couldn't be allowed to exist. An abomination. A monster. And I am all the things they told me were unacceptable. There is and has always been a darkness within me.
But I no longer believe my darkness disqualifies me from the light.
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It's not a problem, though. And like I say, I've seen religion do more harm than good. I don't exactly feel like I'm missing out. It sounds like you feel the same, maybe.
Sorry, strange late night conversation topic. I don't normally talk theology at 3am, I promise.
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[All too frequently, really. He enjoys wrestling with Ronan on the subjects of forgiveness, redemption and sin (original or otherwise) almost as much as he enjoys... well. Wrestling with Ronan.]
Do you think you are?
Sinful.
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I don't exactly worry too much about my mortal soul and things like that. There's no point really. If I did, I'd never get anything done.
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Who gets to decide the model and measure your deviation from it? Perhaps there is no one standard, no universal ideal. Perhaps we are all perfectly suited for the roles we were meant to play.
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Is that what you believe? That we're all destined to play certain roles? You mentioned prophecies before.
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Why? Can you see fate? Prophecies?
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I can see the strain. The flow. Balance. The place I occupy in the greater whole we are all part of.
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I'm more of the opinion that there's no such thing as predetermined fate.
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[And he'll just... casually link you some John Donne, sorry.]
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Connection is exactly why I find it so hard to believe in fate, actually.
What do you think about soulmates?
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[Kylo has... a lot of thoughts, really, on the concept of soulmates. Most of them are unfinished.]
Do you think that our being interconnected disproves fate?
Or is it simply the idea of an individual being fated to do or be something that you reject.
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I used to believe in it. Now I'm not so sure. And I guess it made me re-evaluate the whole fate thing as a result. Nowadays I'm pretty damn sure we make our own fates. What we do determines our future, not the other way around.
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"We make our own fates." "What we do determines our future."
What is "we".
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Look, you're the one who's good with words, not me.
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You must see how that isn't possible.
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[ says the anarchist ]
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Perhaps some things do have to be seen to be believed.]
A pleasant fantasy, yes.
As for "soulmates". No. I don't believe in them as you describe. But I don't believe in the kind of fate you have lost faith in, either.
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Do you mind if I return the question, purely out of curiosity? Do you consider yourself sinful?
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But no. I don't mind.
Do I consider myself sinful.
It isn't the word I would have used. I'm not certain there is a word, where I am from, for what I believed I was. For what I was taught beings like me are.
Sinful may be close. I'd known since I was a child that I was something that couldn't be allowed to exist. An abomination. A monster.
And I am all the things they told me were unacceptable. There is and has always been a darkness within me.
But I no longer believe my darkness disqualifies me from the light.
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Of course it doesn't.
Who's 'they'? Who told you that?
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